I have deduced that the things said in the Quran are the things to bring a man forward even in Western societies. If a man takes the Quran and reads it and does the things it says in there, praying, avoiding khamr and pork, etc. then he will succeed and "belong to the successful ones" as the Quran says. And he will never have any harsh dispute with the Christians. The only problems Muslims ever had are the problems arising through the Ahadith, the so called sunna. Sunna has caused us to lose Spain. Spain was a very good country, Al-Andalus, until they brought ahadith and sunna there. They burnt all guitars and books, you probably know the Spanish history better than I. They immediately lost Toledo. Must I mention Bani Hilal and other Taliban-like people who then came to "clean up" Spain? They lost everything until only Granada stood. Ultimately even Granada was lost. Good Spanish thinkers like Ibn Rushd - all his books were burned. Just the books that were smuggled to Europe founded the basis of modern European thinking linke Thomas of Aquin. Thereupon the Renaissance started in Europe. Not in the Islamic world. I was on holiday in Morocco last year. I was shocked because of the bad culture there. People are rude and analphabetic. They don't know any traffic rules and can't stand and wait in a queue. I conclude that civilisation is something only known to the Christian world, not the Islamic