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خالد اللهيب في السبت 21 مايو 2016


الى أي درك وصل بعض كتاب ومشرفو موقع أهل القرآن !

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اجمالي القراءات 4068

للمزيد يمكنك قراءة : اساسيات اهل القران
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1   تعليق بواسطة   آحمد صبحي منصور     في   السبت 21 مايو 2016
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شكرا استاذ خالد اللهيب وأقول :


1 ـ مقالات الاستاذ رضا البطاوى تحتاج أحيانا الى كثير من النقد والمراجعة ، وقد ألغيت بعضها من النشر ، وواضح أنه لا يهتم بقراءة ما نكتب ، وهذا لا يمنع من وجود بعض إجتهادات صائبة له. هو مثلنا يكتب ما يقبل الخطأ والصواب ، ونحن نصحح لبعضنا ، ولا ضير فى ذلك . وأنت مشكور فى مناقشة مقاله هذا عن النحل . 



2 ـ موقع أهل القرآن يتفاعل مع أحوال هذه ( الأمة ) التى تزعم الايمان بالقرآن ، ومنها ضعيف الايمان ومنها المنافق ، ومنها الذى يعجبك قوله فى الحياة الدنيا وهو ألدُّ الخصام . وهم جميعا من نتوجه اليهم بالاصلاح ، دينيا وسياسيا و ثقافيا . دفاعنا عن المستضعفين وحقوق الانسان وهجومنا على المستكبرين فى الأرض جزء أصيل من جهادنا الدينى . الخطأ يكون لو كنا منحازين لفصيل سياسى ضد آخر ( كما فى الوضع السورى مثلا . ) نحن ضد المستبد الشرقى وضد الكهنوت الدينى معا ، هما معا محور الظلم ، وهما معا متعاونان حليفان . لم يحدث فى مسيرتى أن هادنت مبارك أو رجال دينه ، ولم أتوقف عن الهجوم عليهما حتى وأنا فى مصر أتعرض لاضطهادهما ، وهو نفس ما يحدث الان فى الموقع ولكن على مستوى أوسع . 



3 ـ أعتب عليك أخى تلك النبرة القاسية فى العنوان والتى لم أعهدها فيك.. غفر الله جل وعلا لنا .ولك .!!  



2   تعليق بواسطة   رضا البطاوى البطاوى     في   السبت 21 مايو 2016
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الأخ خالد السلام عليكم وبعد :



قلت "اإنما الأحكام والشريعة تتنزل على الإنس والجن ، تتنزّل عن ما له حرية الإختار بالقبول والرفض أمّا النحل فهي مجبوله على الخضوع والإستسلام لما خلقت له ، فلا أحكاما ولا شريعة تجوز عليها."



التنزيل وهو الوحى ثابت بنصوص القرآن كما فى قوله تعالى "وأوحى ربك إلى النحل " وقوله "وأوحى فى كل سماء أمرها " وقوله "يومئذ تحدث أخبارها بأن ربك اوحى لها "



والوحى للمخلوقات هو إعلامها بما تفعل ومالا تفعل ومثال الفعل "أن اتخذى من الجبال بيوتا " ومثال عدم الفعل " لا الشمس ينبغى لها أن تدرك القمر ولا الليل سابق النهار " والاعلام هنا ليس فيه حرية اختيار لهم فالاختيار للإنس والجن ولو كان الأمر طبيعة كما تتصور وتتخيل فأنت مخطىء لأن تلك المخلوقات فى السموات والأرض رفضت الأمانة والرفض لا يفعله سوى مخير فى تلك الساعة "إنا عرضنا الأمانة على السموات والأرض والجبال فأبين أن يحملنها "ولكنها بعد رفضها للأمانة أصبحت مسلمة لوحى الله لها طوعا أو كرها  كما قال تعالى "وله أسلم من فى السموات والأرض طوعا وكرها "وقد أورد الله مثالا على أن تلك المخلوقات تريد أفعالا غضبا لله على الإنسان الذى يزعم أن لله ولدا ولكنها لا تفعل طاعة لله كما قال "تكاد السموات يتفطرن منه وتنشق الأرض وتخر الجبال هدا أن دعوا للرحمن ولدا"



3   تعليق بواسطة   رضا البطاوى البطاوى     في   السبت 21 مايو 2016
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الأخ خالد  السلام عليكم وبعد :



قلت     



2 -- قولك : (ونلاحظ هنا أن الله لم يفرق بين ذكر وأنثى)، يا سيدي الكريم ، لا عمل لذكر النحل إلا تلقيح الملكة ثم يصار الى قتل ما بقى من الذكور ، فالعسل يخرج كرحيق من بطون أنثى النحل عبر فمها ، (يَخْرُجُ مِن بُطُونِهَا) ، من بطون العاملات وهنّ أنثى"



يا أخى أنا لدى عقلية لا تصدق إلا ما تراه أو تجد نصا وعلماء النحل الأفاضل اتحدى ان يكون واحد منهم شاهد بعينيه الخلية من الداخل وعرف ذكورها من إناثها وهم داخلها يتحركون أو يعملون  ولو صدقنا كلامهم أن مهمة الذكور الوحيدة هى تلقيح الملكة فمعنى هذا أنهم لا ياكلون والأكل هو عمل النحل  "ثم كلى من كل الثمرات "فمنه ينتج العسل ومنه ينتج الشمع لأنهم قاعدون فى الخلية بانتظار التلقيح  حسب ما علمتنا إياه وزارة التربية والتعليم فى كتبها ومنها ما سموها قصة أو درس لا أتذكر اسمها كنت مقررة علينا أيام كنا تلاميذ



 



وحتى لو صدقنا هذا الكلام فما رأيك فى أن الملكة تأكل الغذاء الملكى ألا يناقض هذا الجلوس فى الخلية والأكل داخلها  قوله تعالى " ثم كلى من كل الثمرات "فهى لا تخرج لأكل الثمرات طبقا لعلماء النحل أو طبقا لما تعلمناه ؟



4   تعليق بواسطة   رضا البطاوى البطاوى     في   السبت 21 مايو 2016
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الأخ خالد السلام عليكم وبعد :



قلت "- قولك : ( بعض الفلاحين البسطاء يربونها على أسطح البيوت وهو أمر محرم نظرا لخطورة النحل على الناس وقد حرم الله ما فيه حرج أى أذى فقال بسورة الحج "وما جعل عليكم فى"الدين من حرج) .  



أولا : كلمة الحرج لا تعني الأذى مطلقا ، إنّما تعني عدم الخجل في جميع مواضعها في القرآن الكريم . "



سأعتبر أن كلمة الحرج لا تعنى الأذى كما تقول فما رأيك أن نقول الدليل "ولا تلقوا بأيديكم إلى التهلكة " فمن باب الهلكة الدنيوية تربية النحل على المساكن فهو قد يمرض من يوخزه أو يتسبب فى وفاته  وما رأيك فى أن الله سمى البيوت مساكن ليسكن أى ليرتاح فيها الإنسان من كل المنغضات ومنها النحل فوق الأسطح ؟



فقط أريد منك أن تفكر فى معنى حرجا فى قوله "ومن يرد أن يضله يجعل صدره ضيقا حرجا كأنما يصعد فى السماء " هل هو كما تقول فعلا عدم الخجل؟



5   تعليق بواسطة   رضا البطاوى البطاوى     في   السبت 21 مايو 2016
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الأخ خالد السلام عليكم وبعد :



قلت :



قولك : ( إذا كانت الرحلة لخلايا النحل الجبلى صعبة بسبب وعورة الجبال وإمكان سقوط الإنسان وتكسره فيحرم على الجامع هذا العمل خوفا على جسمه وحرصا على سلامته).



سيدي الفاضل من أين جئت بالحرمة ؟ وأنت خير من يعلم أن لا حرمة إلا ما حرّمه رب العزة في كتابه الكريم نصلا ، لا تحليلا و لا تأويلا ، فما أصاب أمة المسلمين في دينهم من تفرقة و ضعف إلا بخروجهم عن النص الموحى."



أليس الحفاظ على سلامة الإنسان من باب اليسر وليس العسر "يريد بكم اليسر ولا يريد بكم العسر "



أليس الحفاظ على سلامة جسم الإنسان واجبا منعا للتهلكة الدنيوية وهى داخلة ضمن التهلكة الأخروية كما قال تعالى " ولا تلقوا بأيديكم إلى التهلكة "



6   تعليق بواسطة   رضا البطاوى البطاوى     في   السبت 21 مايو 2016
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  الأخ الكبير أحمد صبحى منصور السلام عليكم وبعد :



 انا مهتم  بما تردون به على بعض مقالاتى أنت وبعض الاخوة والأخوات ولكن فى كثير من الأحيان لا أرد فى الموقع لأنى أعرف أن الردود سوف تحذف طبقا لسياسة الموقع ومن ثم فإنى أوثر نشرها فى مواقع أخرى بدلا من حذفها



الأخت نهال السلام عليكم وبعد:



حياك الله  ردى على الأخ الكبير هو ردى عليك



الأخ خالد



: السياسة هى إدارة الحكم والإسلام هو حكم الله وانتقاد السياسة الخاطئة هو جزء من الأمر بالمعروف والنهى عن المنكر ولكنى ألمح وراء تلك العبارة "المعارضة السياسية بامتياز " شيئا لم تبده أنت ولا غيرك عندما كان الموقع معارضة سياسية للإخوان أيام مرسى وما قيل فيهم فى تلك الأيام يفوق ما يقال حاليا فى السيسى ونظامه 



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